Comments on: 50 Greatest MCs: 1987 - 2007 http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html Hip-Hop on the Highest Level Sat, 6 Sep 2008 01:35:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/ By: Rizoh http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3466 Rizoh Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:17:08 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3466 "Dre had only one solo album and that was his worst effort." Basically... I don't understand how folks expect me to rank him in the Top 10 when he hasn't really proved himself outside of OutKast. With guys like Thought and Chuck, I can understand them getting props despite being in a group because they're what you would call "Lead-MCs" or whatever. “Dre had only one solo album and that was his worst effort.”

Basically…

I don’t understand how folks expect me to rank him in the Top 10 when he hasn’t really proved himself outside of OutKast. With guys like Thought and Chuck, I can understand them getting props despite being in a group because they’re what you would call “Lead-MCs” or whatever.

]]> By: Seamus http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3464 Seamus Sun, 25 Mar 2007 06:22:23 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3464 I never understand why Outkast gets rated so low in these lists. No Big Boi, and Andre is only 23. I need an explanation of how he is below Big L, Big Punisher, Lauryn Hill, Black Thouht, etc. Those are all great MCs, but they are not in Andre's league. And if you list an artist's best lyrical album then ATLiens is absolutely required for Andre. Seriously, I like Scarface, but Andre is the South's best MC (with Big Boi second). What more could you want: distinctive flow, ability to ride pretty much any beat, topics upon topics. His contributions to emceeing are endless. I never understand why Outkast gets rated so low in these lists. No Big Boi, and Andre is only 23. I need an explanation of how he is below Big L, Big Punisher, Lauryn Hill, Black Thouht, etc. Those are all great MCs, but they are not in Andre’s league. And if you list an artist’s best lyrical album then ATLiens is absolutely required for Andre.

Seriously, I like Scarface, but Andre is the South’s best MC (with Big Boi second). What more could you want: distinctive flow, ability to ride pretty much any beat, topics upon topics. His contributions to emceeing are endless.

]]> By: Rizoh http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3463 Rizoh Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:07:24 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3463 As for the Biggie vs Pac debate, Pac is the better rapper, but Big is the better emcee. Flow, delivery, storytelling (neck to neck), versatility, wordplay, freestyle skills, flavor..."Relax and take notes..." As for the Biggie vs Pac debate, Pac is the better rapper, but Big is the better emcee.

Flow, delivery, storytelling (neck to neck), versatility, wordplay, freestyle skills, flavor…”Relax and take notes…”

]]> By: Rizoh http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3462 Rizoh Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:03:16 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3462 Royce 5'9 is a better MC then Canibus, have you ever heard C-Hollywood Stories? Canibus is one of my favorites, but his first album has underwhelming, his 2nd album was good (2000 BC) but since then they've been weak, no classics. Now how can you put him two ahead of Rae (Only Built for Cuban) and almost 15 in front of Royce 5'9 ------------------------ "Catalog" is only a small part of the 25-point system used for this. Based on classic albums alone, Jeru and O.C. would be on this list as well. But there are other things to consider. Overall, Bis is a marginally sharper emcee--vocal presence, imageries, concepts, poetic value--than Ryan. Royce 5′9 is a better MC then Canibus, have you ever heard C-Hollywood Stories? Canibus is one of my favorites, but his first album has underwhelming, his 2nd album was good (2000 BC) but since then they’ve been weak, no classics. Now how can you put him two ahead of Rae (Only Built for Cuban) and almost 15 in front of Royce 5′9
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“Catalog” is only a small part of the 25-point system used for this. Based on classic albums alone, Jeru and O.C. would be on this list as well. But there are other things to consider.

Overall, Bis is a marginally sharper emcee–vocal presence, imageries, concepts, poetic value–than Ryan.

]]> By: Rizoh http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3461 Rizoh Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:00:30 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3461 Only thing Pac has over Biggie is message (content), versatility (maybe), greater body of work, impact, and an amazing delivery (includes voice). Lyrically, and flow he can't touch Biggie, I prefer 2Pac ___________________ This man speaketh the truth. Only thing Pac has over Biggie is message (content), versatility (maybe), greater body of work, impact, and an amazing delivery (includes voice).

Lyrically, and flow he can’t touch Biggie, I prefer 2Pac
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This man speaketh the truth.

]]> By: Anonymous http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3460 Anonymous Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:30:40 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3460 I think I would have replaced Erick Sermon and Kardinal Offishall with Treach and Buckshot... Quibian Salazar-Moreno ^Agree. Buckshot > Kardinal and I always thought Treach never got the respect as a lyricist that he deserves. But even tho Erick IMO is better off the mic than on he did give us classics with EPMD so he deserves his place in top 50 but Gift to Gab could definately get pushed off the list for Treach. Those are the 2 on the list I have very little love for..Del and Gift. I think I would have replaced Erick Sermon and Kardinal Offishall with Treach and Buckshot…
Quibian Salazar-Moreno

^Agree. Buckshot > Kardinal and I always thought Treach never got the respect as a lyricist that he deserves. But even tho Erick IMO is better off the mic than on he did give us classics with EPMD so he deserves his place in top 50 but Gift to Gab could definately get pushed off the list for Treach.

Those are the 2 on the list I have very little love for..Del and Gift.

]]> By: Gfunkking http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3459 Gfunkking Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:30:01 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3459 yeah i mean Charasmaticlly i think biggie might have pac, but still Pac had a nice delivery an was always fun to watch. like you said if you pay attention to everything else pac is untouched by biggie, idk its hard to put my finger on why biggie can beat pac in so many countdowns yeah i mean Charasmaticlly i think biggie might have pac, but still Pac had a nice delivery an was always fun to watch. like you said if you pay attention to everything else pac is untouched by biggie, idk its hard to put my finger on why biggie can beat pac in so many countdowns

]]> By: Illmatic620 http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3458 Illmatic620 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 05:56:51 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3458 Anyway Riz, this might be the best list I saw, but I got some qualms. Royce 5'9 is a better MC then Canibus, have you ever heard C-Hollywood Stories? Canibus is one of my favorites, but his first album has underwhelming, his 2nd album was good (2000 BC) but since then they've been weak, no classics. Now how can you put him two ahead of Rae (Only Built for Cuban) and almost 15 in front of Royce 5'9 Eminem is also underrated a bit, LL Cool J is an influential artist but MC SKILLS wise he isnt close to Masta Ace etc. I think it would be best to ignore the whole "impact factor" and just focus on a list for mic skills. A list with impact would be a best rap artist list, which would probably have Pac/Jay-Z 1 and 2 Anyway Riz, this might be the best list I saw, but I got some qualms.

Royce 5′9 is a better MC then Canibus, have you ever heard C-Hollywood Stories? Canibus is one of my favorites, but his first album has underwhelming, his 2nd album was good (2000 BC) but since then they’ve been weak, no classics. Now how can you put him two ahead of Rae (Only Built for Cuban) and almost 15 in front of Royce 5′9

Eminem is also underrated a bit, LL Cool J is an influential artist but MC SKILLS wise he isnt close to Masta Ace etc.

I think it would be best to ignore the whole “impact factor” and just focus on a list for mic skills. A list with impact would be a best rap artist list, which would probably have Pac/Jay-Z 1 and 2

]]> By: Illmatic620 http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3457 Illmatic620 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 05:51:01 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3457 Only thing Pac has over Biggie is message (content), versatility (maybe), greater body of work, impact, and an amazing delivery (includes voice). Lyrically, and flow he can't touch Biggie, I prefer 2Pac despite being a New Yorker, but Biggie is a far better MC then Pac, an inferior artist though Only thing Pac has over Biggie is message (content), versatility (maybe), greater body of work, impact, and an amazing delivery (includes voice).

Lyrically, and flow he can’t touch Biggie, I prefer 2Pac despite being a New Yorker, but Biggie is a far better MC then Pac, an inferior artist though

]]> By: Gfunkking http://therapup.uproxx.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3456 Gfunkking Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:58:02 +0000 http://therapup.rawkus.com/2007/03/50-greatest-mcs-1987-2007.html#comment-3456 idk, Pac bein number 7? thas really ruff to handle. i seriously believe he is a better lyricist than biggie. so switch them an your good. everythin else is pretty good idk, Pac bein number 7? thas really ruff to handle. i seriously believe he is a better lyricist than biggie. so switch them an your good. everythin else is pretty good

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