hmmm i’m not really sure he talkin to L here

Rizoh, you are reaching waaaaay to far on this, I don’t think that was JD speaking to you, lol. The album is amazing, thank goodness for Jay, he dropped a banger for the fiends. “No Hook”, “Roc Boys”, “Ignorant Shit” and “Hello Brooklyn” have been on repeat for me … but my new favorite is “Pray”. The Al Green sample is so sick and Jay rides that beat perfectly, the storytelling is sick.

I’d go with that verse being aimed at Dame before LL.

“Locked down the town now belongs to the squares
Who said they won’t make the same mistake that got you there”

Dame and Dips (re: Harlem)

“Bad news keeps comin’
Hard to keep something on ya stomach Your sick ’bout what ya life is becoming”

“Dame stays losing” (LOL)

Cam talking tough on YouTube

“And it’s damn near inevitable
They’ll experience deja vu too”

Basically saying the Dips saw some success but they’ll hit rock bottom soon too.

Maybe we’re all reading into this shyt too much by the way. LOL.

Oh yeah, the best track is either American Dreamin or No Hook.

Damn that’s a hard question right now i killing “American Dreaming”, “Party Life”, “Success”, “Fallin” but i love everything else also just these joints more.

Definetly reachin’ for it on this one, Rizoh.

But your use-to’s has-beens
Ragging bad ’bout all the new dudes
Talking tough on the Youtube
‘Bout what you use to do
But that’s old school to the new crew
They doin’ numbers like Sudoku
They’re the new you
And it’s damn near inevitable
They’ll experience deja vu too…..

I actually think that if you want to reach further you could say this was directed at 50. He says that all the use-to’s and has-beens are talking all this shit about how the new dudes are the future and that they used to do all that shit too (IE. LL COOL J dickriding 50). LL jumped on the 50 and Unit bandwagon and since he can no longer do numbers or have the same impact as he used, he has to live VICARIOUSLY through 50.

And when Jay’s talking about they’re the “NEW YOU”, he’s aiming at 50 and saying that 50 will eventually be in the place LL is in now ((”THEY’LL EXPERIENCE DEJA VU TOO….”)

My man Rizoh reaching like a hungry giraffe to a filled tree..I see you homey!

i dont know riz. i like the “american dreamin” “roc boyz” & “hello bklyn”. imma listen some more.

I like em all…just hate I KNOW..gotta be the worst beat on the album and sticks out like a sore thumb

ARE YOU ALL FORGETTING ABOUT THE DJ TOOMP JOINT “SAY HELLO” FORGET THE WAY HE KILLED THE “CAN’T TELL ME NOTHING” SOUND. HE IS BLENDING THE BEST OF NORTH & SOUTH AND STILL PUSHING HIS FLOW EVEN FURTHER. “WE AIN’T THUGS FOR THE SAKE OF JUST BEING THUGHS, NOBODY DO THAT WHERE WE GREW AT, NI%%A DUH!”

I think that last verse was about Dehaven and that other cat…whatever his name was…both were tough talkin’ on the youtube trying to discredit Jay and spoke about their past escapades. No one cares because now there are others on the blocks to take their place…but hell he could be talking about those cats and Dame, and the Dips. Good topic, Riz

I’m loving the album but #3, American Dreamin takes the cake imo. You’d have to be a sad sort of mc to f up a beat like that but you have Marvin Gaye on the hook Jigga on the verses… Man, that’s heron for my ears right now.

btw, reaching indeed but lmao @ pushup.jpg

I never hear people talkin bout “Sweet” bein a good song. I think its highly underrated.

“BBs on da feet,
TVs in da seat,
enemies on da creep.”

I Think ur reachin’ too rizoh. I don’t think jay is goin at ll. Tracks on AG i feel the most are American Dreamin’, Ignorant Sh*t, American Gangster (Feelin that curtis mayfield sample), and fallin’.

And now, Rizoh’s top 5 favorite tracks on AG in order:

-American Dreamin’
-Roc Boys
-Fallin’
-No Hook
-Success

Ignorant Sh*t could use a longer verse from Sigel.

Am I the only one who is not feeling AG? The album is sort of tired to me…Jay still has got skillz, but this project comes off a little flat. It’s a lot better than his last joint, but it’s still not great for me.

Give it time.

Hey could be talking to LL, I dunno.. he be dissing Boo Boo, anyone… that’s why he does it like that.

Rizah your fkin paranoid…he aint dissin nobody…go back to no hook and american dreamin…no LL or no cats is bein smashed indirectly..it’s a parallel between we he couldve ben if he didnt pursue rappin and the reality of deheaven scarface and ll those mafioso stars cause if they alive they in jail or tryin to prove sumthin with their old scams or they re plain dead….dissin LL Loordd…

that verse is definitely about Calvin Klein and Dehaven

tunji Says:
November 16th, 2007 at 12:15 am
that verse is definitely about Calvin Klein and Dehaven
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Calvin Klein…that’s the guy. It’s a verse about all the so-called big time hustlers who get replaced regularly by the new jacks (Frank Lucas, Nicky Barnes, etc.). Take the crack game and apply it to the rap game - LL, Dips, Curtis…

^^^^^ I agree 100 % its about calvin klein and Dee

im a proud jay stan like millions of other people but dont get me twisted, jay smacked deheaven around like a child on ”No Hook” but when it came to Calvin, the nigga goes on the sublims too shoot him on ”Fallin’ ”pfff, yo grab yo balls and spit it out…this nigga’s SCARED (c) 2Pac

say hello, say hello

Yeah Calvin Klien and Dehaven would make more sense of the track and I think that is who them shot were aimed at if he was dissing anybody.

As for the best track on the album damn there are so many hot joints and I get addicted to a different joint of AG everyday I have changed my favorite track about 5 times at the moment though it is between

Say Hello
American Dreaming
Success
Fallin
American Gangster
No Hook

ayo idk i have 2 go w/ u on the fallin track…itz on my playlist @ number 1 itz so hot….and the I Know track ft. Pharrell iz hot to…2nd best song…Ignorant S**t iz my 3rd..the whole album iz crazy..Hello Brooklyn i hate it and therefor 2 me the worst song on the album…lil Wayne iz nice….but he doesn belong on tht track…American gagster iz hot…go get it

Favorite Track: “I Know”

Followed by Roc Boys, Pray, Fallin & Party Life.

american dreamin is my song…i like ignorant shit, but beans verse coulda been longer, roc boyz is ajoint im feelin & i have to listen to it some more. i dont like hello bk, but i like hello bk. lil wayne shouldna been on the track. i think if you’re gonna make an album about ya boro, it’s gotta be good lyrics wise. the lyrics was meh. the hook was cool though.

Top 5, huh. I forgot about Party Life cause it’s so laid back, mellow, but that song is nice. I be singing the hook all the time. American Gangster a great example of an album you can listen to all the way through, I even enjoy Hello Brooklyn…my fine ho we got some victims to catch, so in a couple years baby ima bring you some nets.

Fallin
Success
No Hook
Party Life
American Gangster