Nice, I totally agree!

no Curtis

yes! im so glad someone has given credit 2 eardrum, the album is ill! altho everyone seemed 2 dismiss it str8 away

Oh yeah!!! My favs conscious in one row)))) Don’t agree with #2, sorry Jigga but I can’t feel you “lyricly like Talib Kweli, truthfully like Common Sense”… and I prefer The Cool much more than Graduation… Pharoahe fully sitisfied our expectations, great work!!!…

Kanye’s latest album is insultingly bad. He is a narcissistic bore. I give it one and a half (that being the number of songs to which one can listen before they destroy the CD—or themselves; if they choose the former, then I would gently encourage them to go to “C” on their iPod; Common will take away their bad music blues).

This list is a bit commercial. These “critics” (and let’s be honest, everybody is a critic: me and you, your brother and your cousin, too) are just pop-rap junkies, who need easily digested baby-food rap. Clap back…or clap your guns…or clap your hands for yourself, you ridiculous hip-hop jokes.

What’s real on that list? Common, Talib, Little Brother, Pharoahe, Blu, Brother Ali, El-P, Blue Scholars, and perhaps a few others (perhaps).

Where are Atmosphere’s seasonal EP releases on that list? Where is Grayskul’s “Bloody Radio?” Where is Sage Francis’ “Human the Death Dance?” What about Ohmega Watts?

Hmm..
your list was amazing.

But no Hi-Tek?

Peace,
Cami

great list.

don’t really know how you can not enjoy Graduation…but to each his own…
i will say, nothin against atmosphere (”scapegoat” and “sound is vibration” are always welcome in my world), but Kanye’s album crushes everything they’ve ever put out.

and i doubt these “pop rap junkies” (who adore ghostface and pharoah monch wtf?) are spoonfed their music or opinions any more than the average “super ultra underground” head…i know, i used to be one…

by the way, what does “commercial” mean?

Am feelin this

;-D

003… your wack!

good music is good music, and if its commercially popular thats because PEOPLE LIKE IT

and ye, wtf ghostface isnt “real” enough for you??

ITS ABOUT TIME THEY GAVE SOME RESPECT TO THE LYRICAL BLACKSMITHS OF HIP HOP. I’M TIRED OF A SLAMMIN BEATS WITH NOTHIN OVER IT. THEY NEED TO BAN PEOPLE FROM HIP HOP IF THEY CAN’T BE CREATIVE. ONE LOVE TREE PS. SEE YOU AT 420

you’re not seriously gonna sit here and tell me that jay-z or commons shit is better than that cunninlynguists album, i mean come on, its better than half of this list man.

no CALTROIT?

I’m Surprised Budden didn’t get more votes.

ummmmmm

Devin the Dude?

20. Devin the Dude – Waiting to Inhale (Rap-A-Lot)
Score: 16 (6 Votes)

Thanks for getting this up! This is definitely the closest thing we’ll see to a “consensus” album of the year list, as voted on by real hip hop fans. So I appreciate the work & coordination that goes into this.

You lost me on #9 but this is a great list.

ps- Joe Budden deserved more love.

003: WTF, my dude?? Besides Kanye and jay-Z (and that’s even debatable given the kind of album AG is), what is ‘pop-rap’ on this list? It’s basically all underground or hardcore hip hop. Anyone arguing otherwise with a straight face is kind of deluded or WAY too much of a purist to be taken seriously….

is this a joke?

“25 hip-hop critics were asked to pick up to 10 of their favorite ‘07 releases. Points were then awarded to the nominated albums in descending order.”
—
For those of you who can’t understand, 25 hip-hop critics (a.k.a. “fans”) submitted their top 10 and from those 10, the albums were arranged in order of “best” to “least best.” If you don’t see MC SuperUnderGround on here, maybe you can email Rizoh to get that artist a write-in vote or something.

those top 5 were my top 5 also but..

1. ye
2. lupe
3. jay-z
4. common
5. talib

i can feel it

http://www.herfection.com

Just one complaint, wu’s album lil low, lower than ghostfaces? but besides that great list

the real list!
http://www.spymac.com/details/?2330227

Props Riz, nice to see some concensus and this is a pretty solid list.

003: “me and you, your brother and your cousin, too” Is this a play on the famous Outkast hook? I’m surprised that ‘commercial’ act managed to get through to your ultra underground -you must not sell a record- defense shield(C).

“Your wack.” First things first, JJ: learn your grammar. It would be “you’re” (as in the contraction of “you are”). What you just gave me is at best an incomplete sentence, or at worst, an shining example of wondrous ignorance.

And yes, J to the AAP, my reference is to Outkast. They are unbelievably innovative, are they not? Kanye was an innovator with a fresh perspective (keyword: was). His first two albums were amazing; his third album little more than an ode to his giant, yawn-inducing ego. (By the way, JJ, I just used what is known as a semicolon. It is acceptable for joining two independent clauses in place of a preposition, such as “therefore” or “but.”)

DJ Trackstar raised a very important question: what is “underground?” I find that J to the AAP’s argument for “underground” is fundamentally flawed. If low album sales were the definition of underground, then Atmosphere would not be underground, having sold over 130,000 copies of God Loves Ugly, and You Can’t Image How Much Fun We’re Having sold 19,000 in the first week.

By their same logic, “wackness” and “underground” would be nearly inextricable, since wack rappers often have poor sales. Similarly, Souja Boy would not BE sh*t, but rather THE sh*t. (We all know and can agree that Soulja Boy sucks. None of his fans will come on this board and disagree with that—they are probably still figuring out how to turn on their computer.)

If skill is determined by albums sold, then 50 Cent is more talented than Common, Birdman is more talented than Mars Ill, and Snoop Dogg is more talented than Talib. If such were is truly the case, we may now bludgeon ourselves repeatedly in the head, because we won’t need our pesky cognitive thought processes anymore.

Is “underground,” then, defined by a poor sales numbers, as your argument would have us believe?

Murs (who is on Warner Bros. now—the ultimate commercial label—and will likely still be iller than ebola) said it eloquently:

Like the radio songs that make us sing along
‘Cause the beat is real heavy and the hook is real catchy
Make you nod your head steady, and you don’t feel sketchy
‘Til you’re all by yourself, and you ridin’ around
And realize to yourself how stupid it sounds.

According to one poster, “commercial” appeal is popular because people like it. Are the masses a credible (or reliable) source for quality control? Most people are, after all, fundamentalists: one who considers a whether or not a fact is true to their faith before they explore it. Let’s translate that into one word: stubborn. Given the opportunity to defend their beliefs (no matter how absurd) or change their view, most people will ignorantly and pridefully choose the former. (I did.)

Do you want your iPod controlled by the lazy, uninspired, half-opinions of the lemming-like majority? (We already have that model in place. It’s called the radio.)

Mainstream heads like easily digestible rap. Why? The radio plays it. Their friends like it. They can sing along to it without expelling too much effort. And, what’s most important, it doesn’t shake up their simplistic, fundamentalist lifestyle.

Honestly, I find difficult to take a list to heart when its forerunners are Kanye and Jay-Z. Yeah, they are talented, but without Grayskul, Sage, or even Listener, this is a compilation of the best top-of-mind albums.

Understand this: I do not believe that this list is all bad. (Let’s see the radio blasting Blu & Exile. It won’t happen.) It could have been better, of course. (No list is perfect to anybody but the creator.)

Nobody (except me) agrees with me all the time. Nobody (except you, whoever you are) agrees with you all the time (unless you’re a Kanye evangelist‚ in which case, everybody seems to agree with you, even though his album is rubbish).

Intellectual snobbery? Perhaps. Hate away? You know you want to. (And just to give you some ammo, I ended that last sentence with a preposition. Oh, wait, you didn’t notice? Why would you? You were busy listening to Kanye spit about clothes and hoes.)

My top five? 1-5: anything put out by JJ. Since you sold 0 albums last year (this is, of course, a guess), you are the ultimate underground (and, apparently, I am the ultimate underground elitist). Your diction is delightful, JJ.

Correction: a shining example, not an.

PS: Take my post lightheartedly. I’m just havin’ fun, stirring up a commotion.

“I find difficult to take a list to heart when its forerunners are Kanye and Jay-Z.”
That’s your prerogative, I find it quite hard to take a comment to heart from someone who just sh*tted on UGK, Ghostface, Lupe, Black Milk, Dillagence and a couple others. That certainly seems like intellectual snobbery to me.

By the way, ‘Poor sales’ isn’t my definition of underground, I was poking fun at you. I don’t really care for any definition of underground anyway, it’s either good or wack music imo.

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I was ready to see CURTIS on this list, thats a good thing, but to put GRADUTION as #1. And HIP HOP IS DEAD didn’t make it. Those two things suggest that this list isn’t of much importance or relevance. Nas’s album was about a legitimate issue in hip hop and Kanye’s was about pop/rap songs and getting billboard hits. The #1 album is from the worst lyricist in the top 10, this alone tells us that Nas was rite after all. That means they basically proved Nas right by making GRADUATION #1. It’s about Billboard hits and not content, they may as well have put CURTIS in the top 10 then. NIGGAS WILL BE NIGGAS.

1) @ 003, It’s the internet, no one gives a fuck about punctuation, and you detailing your knowledge of grammar doesn’t make you more impressive. Your ‘yawn-inducing’ list of emo-hoppers doesn’t really impress much either. There’s a reason those dudes don’t sell records, their music is only good until they reach a certain level of notoriety. Then it’s on to the next underground dude rapping about his feelings and how much being rich would suck anyway.

2) No Drought 3? Come on.

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Are you serious. I cant even listen to Kanye all the way through. Let only really listen to more than a few tracks. Now hear me when I say this. Dillagence by far should have ben a lot higher on that list. That was some of Dilla’s hottest beats and that was Busta Rhymes in a “back on his bullshyt” mode. Whats scary is that im sure these were not young people voting on this. I could understand young teens putting Kanye at the top of the list but this is a hip hop site and on a hip hop point of view I would have rather seen another album at number 1. All the media attention that Ye got does not mean that he should get number one. This aint Rolling Stones top 25 hip hop albums of 07. Now maybe im being a little harsh but I feel number two would have been best kept for Ye and number 1 should have went to a more hip hop album. Lupe, Jay or Common. But back to Dillagence. That was taking me back to when Busta was on point back in the gap but with a 08 vibe. That was a true hip hop album. Way more hip hop than Ye could and will ever be

003 your lost.

you are mislead by the media hype of kanye west. when really, whether he is underground or mainstream, he is lyrically and musically gifted. he will stand with the greats one day. List to the song “big brother” his dedication to Jay-Z and the way Jay got him into the game.

one of my favorite songs of all time.

and if “Good Morning” doesn’t show you real, strong lyrical, master flow, music. then its just fair to say you disagree with all the other rap fans out there. Rap as in real rap, not bulls**t media-hyped garbage.

KANYE IS THE REAL DEAL