Apr
2
2009

5 Weakest Links in Great Rap Groups


The weak link. The butt of everyone’s jokes. That one artist who looks stunted next to other members. Nearly every hip-hop group has a weak link, but they’re harder to find in the great ones. Join me and Joe Abay as we pick 5 weak links in 5 great rap groups.


5. Fat Joe (DITC):
Fat Joe, through some bizarre coincidence, ended up with one of the illest hip-hop crews in hip-hop. This was before Fat Joe met Big Pun. For some reason, Fat Joe was a better MC when he was associated with Big Pun. In retrospect, his skill took a nosedive again after Big Pun died. Sheer coincidence? I think not. Oh did i mention he wasted countless classic DJ Premier(still continues too) and Diamond D beats. A.G. should of rocked the “Flow Joe” beat, and Nas(shit, even Group Home) should of gotten “The Shit Is Real Remix” beat.


4. J-Hood (D-Block)
The original LOX was a hard-hitting combo, and the inclusion of J-hood in D-Block is mind-boggling to me. He had no memorable lines, never released a solo album, and ended up dissing D-block in the end, thereby biting the hand that fed him. Still, I doubt anyone was really holding their breath for J-Hood’s solo album.


3. Turk (The Hot Boy$)
I never cared about Turk. Juvenile, B.G. and even Lil Wayne were the backbone of Hot Boy$ back then. I just thought Turk was just some dude they grabbed to fill a spot. They probably thought three Hot Boys would just be ludicrous. Most people don’t even remember Turk. And when the tried, the conversation usually went like this: “That one dude who was in the Hot Boy$. No, not Lil Wayne. Not B.G. His name started with a T or something. He did a solo album. No, I didn’t buy it, but he definetely released one. What happened to that guy?”


2. Sir Scratch & K-Cut in Main Source
Large Professor was deft both as the primary producer and as a rapper. Sir Scratch & K-Cut weren’t completely irrelevant in Main Source, but Large P could have easily done the album without them. For evidence of Extra P’s well-grounded talent, look no further than his first solo album.
Bottom Line: Large Professor > Mikey D, Sir Scratch, K-Cut


1. Pras (The Fugees)
Hey, remember when you bought Lauryn Hill’s The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill and Wyclef’s The Carnival and you bumped them until the CD couldn’t play anymore? Those two albums were among the best hip-hop albums of the 90s. You can’t make that same argument about Pras’ solo albums, Ghetto Supastar and Win, Lose, or Draw. Pras’ weakness, though downplayed on group albums, seemed painfully obvious when he had no Lauryn or Clef to hide behind. [Words by Joe Abay & Rizoh]

(dis)Honorable Mention:

  • U-God (Wu-Tang)

43 Responses

1. Enigmatik Says:

How could you leave off U-God?

2. TC Says:

Whoa.

At the time, Fat Joe was a better rapper and more bankable artist than everyone in D.I.T.C. except Big L.

Yeah, I’m not feeling like that one cuz Don Cartegena > everyone else’s best album.

3.
Rizoh
Rizoh Says:

1. Enigmatik Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm e

How could you leave off U-God?
—————————–
Because you could also make the argument that Mastah Killa was the weakest link at the time. It’s too subjective, so we decided to leave Wu out of this.

4. Enigmatik Says:

Masta Killa > U-God

5.
Rizoh
Rizoh Says:

Thank you, Captain Obvious. He’s up there now. lol

6. moneda Says:

Y’know, I’ve always dug Joey Crack for some reason. Don Cartegena was a dope album to me.

I’ve been reminiscing about The Carnival lately, too.

7. giles Says:

doodlebug
poc fu

8. Purpose Says:

What about black moon and 5 ft.

9. mcfaddenisdead Says:

yeah i was expected a wu-tang pick.

u-god was always one of my favorites. his voice is so unique.

10. SiRe Says:

so yea fat joe should not be up there at all. everyone else i understand fully what your talking about but fat joe was ill back in the daya nd he ran the squad. im a huge fan of TS but prospect was probably the weakest def not joe. I do admit hes wack now but doesnt that happen cuz of money. EX.Lil wayne, 50 cent, Kanye…Rest my case

11. Enigmatik Says:

lol

12. Brent Says:

Tupac in the outlaws

Biggie in Junior Mafia

Nas in the firm

Bustah in LOTNS

QTip in ATCQ

13. Dpgc Says:

I’ll be god damned if I settle for Pras

14.
Illmatic620
Illmatic620 Says:

I can deal with average MC fat joe from the 1990s cause of the ill beats. Yeah he wasnt a great MC, but he was good enough.

Hell what about Guru? I love Gangstarr, his delivery is smooth, but what if Rakim was on all those tracks?

15. HANZOMAN Says:

YOU FORGOT WISH BONE!!

16. Joe Abay Says:

Got so much dough I vacate in Acapulco
Crazy as they come I’m not the one, we can do this
with the hands, or take it to the guns..
You know I can flow, the name is Fat Joe
I can flow, I can flow, I can flow

17. madrinkandmy2step Says:

bizarre from d12, anyone?

18. Onemanarmy Says:

how bout everyone on rockafella records besides J

19. G to tha T Says:

what about Wish Bone from Bone Thugs?

20. me Says:

ur dumb flesh was the weak one in bone wish wasnt the best but far from the worst

21. Hater Says:

Yayo?
Bizzare?

22. Da Says:

shay from NERD

23. J to the AAP Says:

“how bout everyone on rockafella records besides J”
I’d say you’re seriously sleeping on Philly Freeza and greatly overestimating Jay’s post-Black Album output.

24. drcon Says:

I agree with Guru. I always loved that shit, but a lot of primo’s beats got wasted. who would people say was weaker in mobb deep havoc or prodigy?

25.
Illmatic620
Illmatic620 Says:

At first it was Havoc, as a rapper of course, but then after the beef with Jay-Z Havoc seemed to get better and Prodigy nosedived.

Return of the Mac was a return to form, but honestly Havoc is an ill producer so he is obviously the more valuable member.

26. Guy Fawkes Says:

The Hot Boy$ and D-Block are ‘great rap groups’? Since when?
Joey didn’t do too bad for himself on the “Shit Is Real” remix and Sir Scratch & K-Kut are far from weak links.
How about Talib Kweli in Black Star?

27. hey! Says:

fat joe gets a raw deal. We were loving Flow Joe back when it dropped in the UK and shit is real rmx.

I loved the cuts on breaking atoms.

28.
trilltrey
trilltrey Says:

did someone say Talib Kweli? that dude is the one of the realist lyricist out there. get your mind right!

29. lol Says:

benzino lol

30. Wize Crack Says:

Charlie Brown in LONS

31. SiRe Says:

Rizoh i made a best of Fat Joe mixtape strictly jsut him on tracks. ive convinced fat joe haters to respect him cuz of this cd lol maybe i should send it to you homie..haha and yea charlie brown from leaders def. whoever said talib is a insane. the biggest one you missed is the worst rapper alive…YAYO… garbage made i think one song i could listen too

32. E. Tiggidy Says:

Stacey Betha from Harlem World.

33.
wildwildwest
wildwildwest Says:

Did someone actually say 2pac?…r ya stupid or dumb? When pac was ALIVE he was head & shouldrs ova all otha outlaws now when he died (damn!) the outlaws stepd ther lyrics up big time…sow tht I actually think about tht post Brent is prolly a big souljah boy fan…now 4 weak links: havoc/mob deep, w.c./westside connection, (tie) ol dirty & rza/wu tang, i20/dtp, slick pulla/cte, jr writer/dipset, parrish/epmd, diddy/badboy, bow wow/soso deff

34. shake Says:

Are you serious????? I pray that is sarcasm but you see it doesn’t come out well in text. If not, that is honestly the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The primary producer for Wu and early solos (Liquid Swords and Only Built 4 cuban linx) and a solid MC with 3 good solo records and one of the best movie scores ever(ghost dog) is the weakest member of wu????
pull your head out of your ass

35. bobby steels Says:

Crunchy Black/Triple Six, what the fuck did he ever add to them?

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37. yoyo ma Says:

ren from nwa how do you let the producer dr. dre outshine you on tracks back in the day.

crunchy black from three 6 mafia. he made dj paul(horrible lyricist) seem like a mastermind when both of them rapped.

wishbone. i love bone thugs, but wish always urked me because when lay-z,krayzie, and bizzy were spitting lines, he would often say dumb shit or break off into nonsense and try to sing. get cha thug on was probably his best(only good) song ever.

memph bleek. amil was a better rapper than this dude.

drag-on from the ruff ryders.

spot on with pras. he sucks.

38. Anonymous Says:

THE FUGGES WAS THE SHIT!!

39. MAC Says:

if anything u-god was the weakest link in wu-tang… only member to not get a major deal even a dope feature.

40. Nice Says:

ayoo… jr writer is a beast so that aint true.. and what about anyone from the st lunatics?

41. jayfnz Says:

i was going to say yayo from g-unit, but g-unit’s not a great group.

42. Bwhite Says:

what about Lord Jamar from Brand Nubian. He was nice but not as nice as Grand Puba and not as much swag as Sadat X

43. Joke Much? Says:

Hey, are you just a talking head on a limbless walking dick??? Turk wrote most of the Hot Boyz earlier works…where have you been????



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